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		<title>By: Coches Deportivos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coches Deportivos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 15:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Nuevo Fiat Bravo...&lt;/strong&gt;

I found your entry interesting thus I&#039;ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)...</description>
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<p>I found your entry interesting thus I&#8217;ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog <img src='http://tmsbiz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: K. Rahul</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Rahul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we were kids, Fiat Padmini was still considered a nice car for home / personal use, specially in comparison to the fat Ambassador. In fact we appreciated the neighbor who owned it – not because he owned a car but also because Padmini looked nice in comparison to other dabba cars available in those times. As such I agree with your analysis. I think Fiat Padmini is an example of brand decay because companies fail to upgrade designs. In fact, if Fiat had might and was serious, it should purchase all those dirty and old age Fiat Padminis running on Mumbai roads as taxis in order to stop the vicious cycle of being linked with the outdated cars for ever… </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we were kids, Fiat Padmini was still considered a nice car for home / personal use, specially in comparison to the fat Ambassador. In fact we appreciated the neighbor who owned it – not because he owned a car but also because Padmini looked nice in comparison to other dabba cars available in those times. As such I agree with your analysis. I think Fiat Padmini is an example of brand decay because companies fail to upgrade designs. In fact, if Fiat had might and was serious, it should purchase all those dirty and old age Fiat Padminis running on Mumbai roads as taxis in order to stop the vicious cycle of being linked with the outdated cars for ever…</p>
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		<title>By: Manmeet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manmeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks !
I was actually searching for this Sales data of Fiat Punto and Linea !
Even i have mentioned in the post that both cars are success and have been successful in taking the FIAT image to a new level in India but the problem is the TATA attitude and after Sales service.If TATA could not keep up with the service standards for Punto or Linea then the numbers would definitely fall in coming months !

Now when you say symbiotic relation,i disagree.I think its a one sided relation in which TATA is gaining.The good numbers are mainly due to the PULL created by FIAT.But where is the PUSH.The incident i mentioned in the post is true and can cause problems for FIAT in coming months.UNO also had failed due to the exact reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks !<br />
I was actually searching for this Sales data of Fiat Punto and Linea !<br />
Even i have mentioned in the post that both cars are success and have been successful in taking the FIAT image to a new level in India but the problem is the TATA attitude and after Sales service.If TATA could not keep up with the service standards for Punto or Linea then the numbers would definitely fall in coming months !</p>
<p>Now when you say symbiotic relation,i disagree.I think its a one sided relation in which TATA is gaining.The good numbers are mainly due to the PULL created by FIAT.But where is the PUSH.The incident i mentioned in the post is true and can cause problems for FIAT in coming months.UNO also had failed due to the exact reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Soutik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soutik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering the numbers that Fiat is getting, I am not that sure that the strategy being followed by them is really that flawed in the short run. Fiat may be the 6th largest car maker globally, but it has a very limited reach in India on its own. And if it has to make a splash in the market it has to have a real good network, and for it either it can ramp up its existing network or use the distribution network of another established player.And considering the time lines to set up a stand alone network, Fiat went for the second option.And the deal isnt a fly-by-night deal, its a 3 yr deal, and is beneficial to both, as TATA is using Fiat&#039;s network in other markets notably South America and also using Fiat&#039;s formidable engine tech. So i believe its a very symbiotic relationship in its very nature.And now the reason why i believe, the network and the strategy is working great is straight numbers.Sales of Punto: 1502 compared to AStar : 1791 for Sept 2009, far better than the likes of Fabia, Getz and Jazz (Its real price competitors)But the surprise comes for the other model:Fiat has sold 1053 pieces of Linea (Sept 2009), its competitively priced Executive sedan, making it the highest selling executive sedan. And both these feats are commendable considering that both are very new models.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the numbers that Fiat is getting, I am not that sure that the strategy being followed by them is really that flawed in the short run. Fiat may be the 6th largest car maker globally, but it has a very limited reach in India on its own. And if it has to make a splash in the market it has to have a real good network, and for it either it can ramp up its existing network or use the distribution network of another established player.And considering the time lines to set up a stand alone network, Fiat went for the second option.And the deal isnt a fly-by-night deal, its a 3 yr deal, and is beneficial to both, as TATA is using Fiat&#8217;s network in other markets notably South America and also using Fiat&#8217;s formidable engine tech. So i believe its a very symbiotic relationship in its very nature.And now the reason why i believe, the network and the strategy is working great is straight numbers.Sales of Punto: 1502 compared to AStar : 1791 for Sept 2009, far better than the likes of Fabia, Getz and Jazz (Its real price competitors)But the surprise comes for the other model:Fiat has sold 1053 pieces of Linea (Sept 2009), its competitively priced Executive sedan, making it the highest selling executive sedan. And both these feats are commendable considering that both are very new models.</p>
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		<title>By: Manmeet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manmeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sir !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sir !</p>
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		<title>By: Upender Jit Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Upender Jit Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well analysed and nicely written</description>
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		<title>By: HaRMaN</title>
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		<dc:creator>HaRMaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fiat has excellent quality, rather i say Tata do not even worth competing.. I still wonder wot is fiat doing!? Are they again trying to make profits by selling cars and then &#039;pack n move&#039; again!? I was considering Punto, but the infrastructure &amp; service quality of Tata changed my mind..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fiat has excellent quality, rather i say Tata do not even worth competing.. I still wonder wot is fiat doing!? Are they again trying to make profits by selling cars and then &#8216;pack n move&#8217; again!? I was considering Punto, but the infrastructure &amp; service quality of Tata changed my mind..</p>
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		<title>By: www.rambhai.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FIAT-The Curious Case in India !...&lt;/strong&gt;

FIAT has had a very strange relationship with India.We all do remember the Premier Padmini which was on roads till 2000.Even today majority of the TAXI’s in Mumbai are Padmini.

Premier Padmini is a word that sounds a little lesser known and lesser r...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>FIAT-The Curious Case in India !&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>FIAT has had a very strange relationship with India.We all do remember the Premier Padmini which was on roads till 2000.Even today majority of the TAXI’s in Mumbai are Padmini.</p>
<p>Premier Padmini is a word that sounds a little lesser known and lesser r&#8230;</p>
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